Memina ([info]the_melina_show) wrote,
@ 2006-06-05 13:10:00
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Had a pretty awesome day yesterday.

Went to the beach as it was lovely and sunny  = ) And didn't think it was sunny enough to get tanned or burned...how wrong was I? Haha.

Basically I have this really annoying tan mark on my back from my vest top and this label was sticking out meaning YES a stupid rectangle. Then below that from where I took my top down I have another line...how stupid does my back look at the moment? Very.

Anyhow, I also have flushed cheeks at the moment too but I don't mind because I like having some colour =)

Anyhow, so in the evening went out with Christy and El to see United 93.

NOW I do not agree AT ALL about the film being made as I think it's stupid and someone's making money from a tragedy. But we wanted to see it to get an opinion on it, a bit like why I watched the thing on tv about the moor's murderers.

Basically it was terribly written, I thought that as soon as it started. It is a documentarty style film. However, there was nothing new in that film that you wouldn't have known from watching the new apart from the fact it focused on a plane that didn't reach its target.

It focused a lot on the airport as well and made me aware of how stupid everything was and they basically knew what was happening and didn't have permission to shoot down the planes in case they were wrong. And even when they did get permission they still didn't do it for the same reason.

The film identified waaay too much with the hijackers, and I mean that, it was basically based around them, you were made to actually feel sorry for them and that really shouldn't have been how it was portrayed.

I got angry because they had a part where they were sitting in the terminal listening to people talking on their phones-making plans, I don't know how anyone can be that evil to know that they're going to kill all those people.

Also there was a line in it that one of the passengers said 'something isn't right' despite the fact one man was standing with a bomb, the plane had already dropped considerably and risen again, someone had been stabbed and they were holding them hostage. How stupid is that??

And me and Christy seemed to be the only one's crying....

I think they should have shown more phone calls home calling about love, there were some and it was well done.

I'm just still annoyed how you were made to feel sorry for these guys.

Grrr.

Anyhow, we walked home as it was super warm but i got really bad hayfever, gah! text steve for a bit then went to sleep.

Now I need to go into town to see my bank and ask them for some money, going into frankie and benny's to ask for a job and need to pay in a cheque and send off a couple of CV's.

Later I have Japanese, although I forgot that until about ten minutes ago.

Better go.

ciao.


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[info]________aconite
2006-06-05 12:37 pm UTC (link)
So it wasnt good?
Damn. i wanted to see it, but if its taking sympathy with the hijackers then fuck that.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-05 04:47 pm UTC (link)
It was kinda good but I was really annoyed that they basically took the hijackers side, I'd recommend it if you want an opinion, don't if you'll get really angry like me, haha.

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[info]crayola_smiles
2006-06-05 01:08 pm UTC (link)
Tan marks are pretty annoying, I had a tan mark on my boobs for months and Mark kept laughing at them saying they were 'evil breasts'....they did look pretty mean :D Thay'l be good working at Frankie and Benny's...make sure you get a discount on all the puddings!!! :D xx

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-05 04:48 pm UTC (link)
lol, that's pretty funny.
Yeah, of course! They do such a nice banana split in there, yummy!

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[info]cawwie731
2006-06-05 02:48 pm UTC (link)
Ooohhhh...beach. Now I really don't want to see United 93, not that I ever really did to begin with. I just don't think it's right to exploit victims of such a tragedy. And all of the advertising makes it look like it is more about the victims, so I definitely don't want to see it if it's trying to get you to sympathize with the hijackers.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-05 04:54 pm UTC (link)
I don't think it's trying to get you to sympathise with them but it does. Like it focuses on them right from the start, and the driver of the plane keeps panicking and keeps praying and calls someone before he gets on the plane and tells them he loves them, little things like that seem to reinforce that they were doing it for a worthy cause and to be a martyr.

Most of the film is about the airport communications and them loosing contact with the planes and the hijackers, only the last half hour really focuses on the passengers.

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[info]jennyfairy
2006-06-05 03:24 pm UTC (link)
I don't think they are exploiting the victims of the plane crash, I think it's more commemorating them.

And, no offence intended to anyone, but greater tragedies have happened, like WWI & WWII and the Vietnam war and people don't get outraged about that.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-05 04:51 pm UTC (link)
But they're totally not, seriously, you'd understand if you saw it, or have you?
It doesn't focus hardly at all on the victims and I don't think they're exploiting them, I think they're using a tragic event to gain money and I think it's wrong.

Yeah, I understand that but the war is history that not many people know about, 9/11 is not something to be remembered as it was a terrorist attack, not a war, people did not die fighting for their country.
So I agree that there have been greater tragedies but still....

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[info]jennyfairy
2006-06-05 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Not many people know about two world wars and the biggest military failure in US history? I have to disagree with that.

And I think to forget 9/11 would be more of an insult than to make a film about it.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-05 05:28 pm UTC (link)
I don't mean know of, I mean about them, I don't really know anything about the wars apart from how world war 2 started and ended, I don't know anything at all.

I don't mean forget like that but it's not really something to make a film out of, there's absolutely nothing joyful or anymore information that can be obtained about it than on the news.

At least with the war, people were brave and people did so much for our country, I see nothing good with the 9/11

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[info]jennyfairy
2006-06-06 04:00 pm UTC (link)
Well if you don't know anything about them I think you should go and do some reading as the repercussions are still being felt around the world, particuarly in the middle east.

And the passangers on the plane which went down and the fire fighters who went into the blazing twin towers were prepared to scarifice their lives for their country.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-07 10:25 am UTC (link)
Yes, but they didn't focus on that which is why I disagreed with the film.

Yes, but a lot of people don't know.

All I know is what I was taught in 3 years of history, it's not common.

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[info]cement_sky
2006-06-05 06:32 pm UTC (link)
I think you have got to learn to feel sorry for terrorists. That doesn't mean you have to agree with what they do....but try and understand WHY they do it.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-07 10:26 am UTC (link)
Yeah, see, I thought that, I mean, it is good to know and understand why they do it, but it seemed to FULLY focus on them, that I disagreed with. I wouldn't have minded as much if they partly focused on it so you knew why they were doing it but still hated what they were doing.

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[info]cement_sky
2006-06-05 10:33 pm UTC (link)
People are probably going to jump down my throat for that one, aren't they?

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[info]hellzberry
2006-06-06 11:40 am UTC (link)
I'm not, i agree with you.

I mean if you listen to the news about how people are bombing places and killing people to be 'martyrs' etc etc... but if you think about it, for someone to do that must mean that something must have happened to them or their family around them.

I mean if you read between the lines you will find that while the soldiers are in Iraq killing the 'bad people' they are also killing people who are innocent of any crime... and the reprecustions of killing a wife or a child of someone can be horrific as the husband or the father would begin to see (and so rightly so) that the soliders are the enemy- and thats why you get people bombing places as its their attempt to jutify their own pain or suffering.

However, im not outruling the fact that all 'terrorists' are people who've lost someone, there are those who just use their homeland/religion as an accuse to kill.

Sorry ive gone on... but its the opinion ive formed and i find it covers any kind of war e.g. WWI, WWII etc etc


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[info]cement_sky
2006-06-06 12:40 pm UTC (link)
EXACTLY! Thank you! *claps hands*

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[info]jennyfairy
2006-06-06 03:51 pm UTC (link)
Go Helen!!

This is pretty much how I feel about the whole situation and it really pisses me off when people see the US as 'good' and everyone else as 'bad'. I mean, the US had been throwing it's weight around for so long it was only a matter of time before people started to rebel against it.

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[info]belljar_noir
2006-06-06 05:53 pm UTC (link)
I think America is making the same mistakes again. Like the recent massacre in Irak (caused by American soldiers) was worryingly reminiscent of My Lai in Vietnam.

I also think we have to understand the reasons for Terrorism, because otherwise there's not much hope of stopping it. Continuing American violence only cements the ideas of many of these people eg. that Western culture is the source of all evil.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-07 10:33 am UTC (link)
I think we have to understand the reasoning but at the same time, people disagree with it because it's almost like justifying it, and if it can be justified then it can seem right.

I think if people are going to have big country disagreements then why not target people who are actually to do with what you are fighting for? Not just a bunch of people.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-07 10:30 am UTC (link)
Ah yes, I agree with that, I really do but at the same time, there's no reason to kill lots of people who have fuck all to do with the decisions made about the US causing trouble.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-07 10:31 am UTC (link)
Also, it's fine for people to rebell against it but they don't need to carry out an act of terrorism to achieve a point, it makes them just as bad as everyone else.

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[info]hellzberry
2006-06-07 10:46 am UTC (link)
True. I mean when the 9/11 and 7/7 incidents happened all the news channels blamed the 'Terrorists' which obviously was true but for them to sacifice themselves surely demonstrated that they wanted what was right for their country. I mean the impression i get is that the war seems to be very one-sided where the US are doing what they feel rather then what is right.

Also, the news showed film on young people being 'brainwashed' into thinking that what they were doing was a 'good thing' for their homeland. Which in retrospect can be compared to world wars especially WWII where Hitler promised Germany revenge and a better future, and also he 'brainwashed' the youth of the country, made concerntration camps etc...

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-07 11:29 am UTC (link)
Yeah this is true, but then again...they were looked upon as the evil ones too like the terrorists, it is pretty similar in the way the people are brainwashed and you had to be a certain type of person to be 'worthy' of living.

Of course, the other thing you can think is guarentee that of the people killed in the 9/11 and 7/7 that some especially in the 9/11 were American muslim.

I don't agree for one moment that it was all the fault of the terrorists but at the same time, they carried out what I'd say is a selfish act.

The other thing is that because the Americans are so arrogant you can tell that sometime or even have been turning round saying 'we're fine, we've overcome this and it has made us stronger.' now obviously it caused a huge load of disruption but their terror act hasn't really changed anything has it?

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[info]hellzberry
2006-06-07 07:41 pm UTC (link)
It certainly has made the Americans more paranoid as they're security measures at airports etc have become more extreme e.g. the Kat Stevens/Yusivp Islam incident

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-07 10:28 am UTC (link)
The thing with these terrorists though is that they've basically been brainwashed, and the news has covered places that enroll young people to drum it into their minds that their religion is right, etc.

Although there is a war against terrorism, I don't think it can be compared to a world war.

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[info]jennyfairy
2006-06-07 04:28 pm UTC (link)
I didn't say it should be, but alot of relation problems between America and the Middle East are due to under lying problems which America has created for itself by trying to contain other nations as some point or another.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-08 12:57 pm UTC (link)
Yep, this is true but as I said before, they're almost as bad as each other, I just consider the terrorists worse because of the nature of their attack and the fact it hasn't seemed to really achieve much and as I said before, it seemed to me like those people were more interested in being martyrs.

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-07 10:26 am UTC (link)
Na

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[info]attack_of_flash
2006-06-08 08:19 pm UTC (link)
Terrorists suck. Destroy. Also whats happening with Steve atm?

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[info]the_melina_show
2006-06-12 11:41 am UTC (link)
Yep, they do suck.

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